Tony Heller is a former Geologist at Los Alamos National Labs and the founder of RealClimateScience.com, pulling pack the curtain on junk science.
He’s been one of my favorite content creators for a long time, and I’m thrilled to have him on the podcast.
Topics Discussed:
Tony's background in climate science
The discrepancy between government data and reports
Climate shifts during the 20th century
Appeals to authority in the engineering world;
Mann's hockey stick graph and Hansen's doom prophecy
Overcoming the fear of climate change
Arctic sea ice and polar bear extinction
For more about Tony, please visit:
https://youtube.com/@TonyHeller
MENTIONED IN THIS PODCAST
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Monologue:
This take may surprise my podcast listeners and viewers, but here we go.
Climate change is not a hoax. Yes you heard that right, it’s not a hoax.
In fact, climate change is far worse than a hoax: it’s a scam.
Because when we think about climate change, it’s easy to focus on the deception that’s involved. There’s a lot of it: but the deception has a purpose, not just to grind the global economy into dust to bring about international communism. But also to defraud the nations of the world out of potentially trillions of dollars.
The difference in language between hoax vs. scam matters, because if you try to talk to a normie about climate change and you tell them that it’s a hoax to bring about global communism... well... let’s just say that if they listen to the TV, they’re probably not going to believe that one, no matter if it’s true. (And it is.)
BUT, if instead you say that climate change is an elaborate scam to vacuum their hard-earned tax dollars out of their wallet and into NGOs and ineffective power-generating technologies, among other things, that’s the definition of a scam, and it’s something sensible people can relate to. Because whether or not they believe in global communism, they definitely believe in their pocket books and they’ve definitely been scammed.
There’s just one thing. “But what about the science??” And that is a problem because in our post-Christian America, scientists and experts have taken on the role of unchallengeable priests. You have to have the secret knowledge, ancient Texts, and infallible sources of authority to question them. And that’s outside of the time, energy, and effort of most people.
Notice I said most, not all.
Which brings me to my guest this week. His name is Tony Heller, and I’ve been a fan of his for years. His background is in geology and electrical engineering, with employers ranging from Los Alamos and Sandia Labs, to the team behind the PowerPC series of processors at IBM, Motorola, and Apple. But where I know him from is his YouTube channel, Real Climate Science.
On this channel, Tony posts videos that hammer away at the mainstream climate change narrative using data gleaned from the government’s own sources! That’s right, Tony uses the high priests’ own sacred texts and infallible dogmas against them.
This makes his channel unbelievably effective at dispelling the climate mythos and exposing the raw propaganda that’s going on around us all the time, perhaps more every day.
But what makes Tony’s channel so enjoyable for me is that he clearly has fun doing it. It’s hard not to hear a smirk in his voice as he uses charts, data, graphs, and headlines to not just debunk but demolish the climate change narrative that we’ve all had force-fed to us for decades.
There’s a gleefulness and playfulness to it that’s infectious. In fact, it’s liberating. This big bad boogeyman that the whole world trembles in fear or shakes their fist at, is actually pretty laughable and transparent, if you know just where to look. Which Tony does.
Which is why when he agreed to come on the podcast, I was thrilled. This is one of my dream-come-true interviews, and may the truths that Tony shares set all of us free.
In our conversation we discussed:
Tony's background in climate science
The discrepancy between government data and reports
Climate shifts during the 20th century
Appeals to authority in the engineering world
Michael Mann's hockey stick graph
James Hansen's positive feedback prophecy
Overcoming the fear of climate change
Artic sea ice and polar bear extinction
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One quick note before we begin, as you’ll hear Tony Heller and I have slightly different views about the age of the Earth. I’m a young Earth creationist, which is another conversation, and he’s not. However, this is a good thing. Because the vast majority of people you’ll meet won’t hold that view, and it’s important to be able to debate with them on their terms. So I hope the information that Tony provides this week and on his YouTube helps you do just that.
And please welcome this week’s guest on the podcast. The founder and host of RealClimateScience.com, pulling back the curtain on junk climate science, Tony Heller
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